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Interviews with Zied Mhirsi

Interviewed November 26, 2024

So the use of real bullets [Tunisian police fired on protestors with live ammunition] and spreading out the protest to spread out thin the police forces was a very successful strategy. And this allowed the government in Tunis to be very weak. Plus the three TV speeches that Ben Ali had– every time he used the wrong words. Every time he pushed further. And everybody knew through Facebook what was happening. Everybody who did not have Facebook watched on Al-Jazeera Arabic what was happening.

Every night Al-Jazeera Arabic was the only network that broadcasted the videos that people posted on Facebook. So you have, like, Facebook review of all the videos and phone calls to the people in the local areas. And Al-Jazeera was watched by half of the Tunisian population at least. So every night at 10:00 p.m. would have that– show of 20 minutes of the review of all the videos and an assessment of the situation. And that same day the Tunisian TV would broadcast something totally different saying that these were terrorists. And these people from the West and it´s Islamist while nobody has seen any Islamists. And we know.

So there was constant propaganda that was extremely cheap, extremely cheap compared to the usual. [Former Tunisian President Zine el Abidine] Ben Ali succeeded to maintain his power for 23 years because he used a lot of scientific methods in implementing this dictatorship. And that really showed that the government was not managing the situation at all. Then at some point the protest came to Tunis. And I joined the first protest in front of the unions. Because the unions were the only voice of Tunisians at that time. So yeah.

I was there. And I was realizing the situation is getting bad although I was trying to somehow convey exactly what was happening. Because on Twitter there was lot of exaggeration– or a lot of excitement– I won´t say exaggeration– of what´s happening and every little event will really have a large exposure. And I was trying to convey exactly what was happening. And then real bullets got used in Tunis. And I think people were realizing it was really random. And that the government was not in control anymore. And in his last speech, Ben Ali on January 13th [2011], he said some reassuring words. But I don´t think lot of people believed him.

On January 14th [2011] there was a Facebook event where everyone on Habib Bourguiba Avenue to demonstrate. And I think everyone joined it. The same time the union organized a general protest for two hours. But I think Facebook managed to make this protest larger and allowed a lot of people who would not have come to the union event if they didn´t see it on Facebook. It was a large event. So crazy because it was mostly the upper-middle class who was there in Habib Bourguiba [Avenue] saying, ”Ben Ali degage” which means “get out.” [in French]

And that day was crucial in showing that the public opinion has totally shifted and there was nobody supporting him anymore. And then also that he lost control because he said no more real bullets on January 13th [2011]. And on January 14th there were still bullets in the air and snipers. [January 14, 2011] was also the day he left. And it was a big surprise. It was a surprise to everyone I would say even his worst political opponent did not expect that he would leave so abruptly. On January 16th [2011] I was on air from 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. reassuring people and trying to help out in the chaos that was going on.

The Army was trying to deploy. And that was chaotic at that time. Lots of shootings were happening. And people were extremely anxious and didn´t know what would be the future of Tunisia. And the same time a lot of excitement, a lot of joy. And that was, like, a historical moment for us, I think, seeing that the regime was not as powerful as we thought and that people were not afraid anymore. And that´s something really that you could see it here right now. In Tunisia nobody´s afraid anymore. We´re definitely a free country. And now we´re a democracy as well. And we´re really happy about that.