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Interviews with Zied Mhirsi

Interviewed November 26, 2024

Well, on December 17th [2010] [Tarek al-Tayeb Mohamed] Bouazizi set himself on fire and the fruit vendor [Mohamed Bouazizi was a Tunisian fruit vendor who set himself on fire in protest of the government’s harassment and unlawful confiscation of his products] in Sidi Bouzid [a central Tunisian city]. I feel that was the spark that launched a whole series of events and a spark that was used by local activists in Sidi Bouzid, people who belonged to the unions, people who belonged to the parties, to basically portray this episode as something that would have a universal value and everybody would see himself.

So the fruit vendor was first portrayed in the media as somebody who graduated from a university who was a fruit vendor because he did not have another job. And this resonates with a lot. As I say, 200,000 people, you know, are jobless and graduates from universities. But 200,000 people it means 200,000 families invested in those kids to go to school and supported them. And then they had no jobs. So we´re talking about larger group of people who are frustrated with this. And basically what happened is what we´ve seen in the 2008 and other protest that we observe the other regions.

We´ve seen protests that were really cracked down, where there was a really very violent crackdown by [Former Tunisian President Zine el Abidine] Ben Ali in 2008. And I think people saw how it was handled before. And this time got better organized in terms of using the social media to share the information. That´s something we did not see very well before. But also there was some sort of, like, not strategy but was larger resignation with what was happening. And we´ve seen protests being organized in all the small villages surrounded Sidi Bouzid and then in provinces that were near Sidi Bouzid. And this spread really quickly in a short amount of time.

But in the same time we´ve seen a series of the wrong decisions and the worst decisions that any dictator or political system could take. They did not understand what was happening. They sent police right away. They violently oppressed all the protesters. But also the citizens who were living those cities, shutting down electricity, arresting people randomly, police who would destroy local shops. And at some point we started hearing about the use of the real bullets. And real bullets, more than Bouazizi to my opinion were basically the turning point of the revolution.

In Tunisia we don´t carry guns. Nobody has a gun. Nobody has heard the sound of a bullet in his whole life. Never, ever we´ve heard since 1956 [the year Tunisia gained its independence from France] maybe the use of real bullets. And unlike other areas, when something like this happens people are really shocked. Police would use real bullets against young people in the streets? That was something that nobody would accept. And for me that´s when I knew that there would be no way back.

But I think the people who organized the protests knew that there was no way back from the day one. Because we´ve seen they stop at any point and if the Ben Ali forces win the crackdown, then they will pay a very heavy price later on. Although he will be looking for compromise to stabilize the situation in the beginning, six months later everybody will end up in jail.