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Interviews with Sihem Bensedrine

Interviewed November 26, 2024

Election day on the 23rd of October, was a great day, because we felt we became citizens. For the first time, we had this feeling. For the first time, we were proud to be Tunisians. And for the first time, we understood our vote is crucial for political makers, for political decision makers. And now nobody can do everything they want of these people.

Now the work is starting. Because we put the first stone, but it is the first stone. We have to do big, big building. And building our democratic tradition is a long, long trip. It´s not easy. We are aware of that. But we are confident. Because you know, a lot of foreign observers are looking at us, are, “Oh, you have Islamists running the country. Then you are bad. You cannot access democracy because you have a lot of Islamists leading this parliament.”

When you are holding elections in your country, if the winner is leftist party or rightist party you never say the process is bad, it´s not democratic. Because the winner is not the one you need. It´s democracy. It is the play of democracy. But because we, for the first time, had really, really fair and free elections, and the winner is the rightist, a lot of European observer are saying, “Oh, it´s a failure.”

Why it is a failure? Why? Our rightist groups are not alone. They have around them a lot of other groups doing the balance. We also have a very dynamic civil society they were resisting against dictatorship, it´s much more difficult than resisting in a democracy. And there is a lot of people who will never, never accept that the goals of the revolution are not respected, are not achieved, and are violated by any group– any political group. They never accept that.

And if they are watching some of these groups are violating these achievements, they will go again on the street. And me too. I never, never accept that some fundamental and basic rights will be at risk in our new democracy. I never can accept that. And I– when I say “I” I am saying also all Tunisians never accept that. And you can be sure that we started going down the right way.

Of course we are at the first step. Of course we are not used in this democratic play. Of course we have to grow up. We have to learn. Nobody already had an experience in the democratic play in Tunisia, no one. Even the winners or the [candidates] who didn´t win and they will be the opponent in this next Parliament.

But let us try. Give us a chance. Let us go and build. And maybe some failure and then success and then– but let us try. Why would you like us to start with the perfect model?

One is to be a perfect democracy. And the other to be always under a despotic governance. And why we can´t have a normal democracy with all things related to the play. In the play nothing is perfect.

But we have the right to do mistakes, and to change, and to correct our mistakes, and to go ahead and to do it in a better way. We are learning from people from abroad. We are learning from other experience. We tried, regarding this transitional justice, with reform of police, reform of judiciary. We tried to learn from Polish people, from Hungarian, from South African, from Latin American.

And we are trying to learn from how they did this transition. Because it´s not easy at all. Because the old regime is still there. Because the people against this revolution are still in the administration. And we also need how to do it. But why they– we are supposed to be successful 100 percent. Why? And I say, “Please let us try our own way to go to democracy.”