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Interviews with Sarah Ben Behia

Interviewed November 26, 2024

[The government did] many things. I can even mention some of them, but many, many things. For example, when you steal the wealth of the people – when you steal the wealth and all the wealth that this country is offering for its citizens, for its people, and you steal all of that, and it is really – all the wealth is divided between a particular group of people and all of the other people are denied their basic rights, then they are living under horrible conditions, as I said, and others are living this luxurious life – I mean, they have not one house, not two, not three – but maybe a dozen houses or more even – luxurious, big houses, and some [other people] don’t even have water to drink – healthy water to drink. I mean, this denies their dignity. This denies their dignity, when a man is not allowed to have a family, he cannot get married, although he wants to, he cannot have children, although he wants to, because he cannot afford having a family, this denies his dignity as a person, as a man in a society.

And many other – and as for me, when you don’t allow me to say, “No,” or to participate in the political sphere or to take part in decision-making, you are denying my dignity, because I got an education in order for me to have this good career and to bring change and to participate in the welfare of my country. So if you are denying me that, you are denying my dignity.

I mean, what is the added value I am bringing to my country if I cannot participate in anything? Anything, if not under your rules. And this denies my dignity. So it depends on the needs and the demands of the people – that they did a lot, the former government did a lot to deny. I mean, they kept stealing even – they kept stealing the houses of many other people. Some people found themselves on the streets, just because [the government] likes that house, so they steal – they steal people’s houses only because they love their localization they love that city or that neighborhood. And people were exercising and practicing their belief, for example, for their religious beliefs – and were excluded from the country and they were beaten, and they were put in jail. For years. Some of them died in jail.

So this also denies dignity. I mean, people were not allowed to do anything. Anything. But the thing is that maybe you are – many things were a surprise. Even us – we were surprised at the revolution. And many people were surprised – especially internationally, I mean, for us, because they never knew that the situation was as horrible as it was in Tunisia.

And the thing is that the former government and the former president tried to give this beautiful, glossy image about Tunisia in the media and for the representatives of all the other countries, and they [Ben Ali’s government] were showing really wrong facts, and the wrong image about the situation of the country, because they were investing – for example, the government was investing in the downtown, in the capital, and in the regions surrounding the capital. But the south – in the south, and as I said, many, many people were living there, constituting maybe half of the population. They were disconnected from the other part of the country. They were really disconnected. I got to go there, and let me tell you that some of them didn’t even know about the president – about our new president. They were like, “Is it true that our president [Ben Ali] ran away?” The situation is as horrible as this. [Zine El Abidine Ben Ali (1936- ) served as President of Tunisia from 1987 until 2011, when he was ousted in the Jasmine Revolution.]