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Interviews with Max du Preez

Interviewed November 26, 2024

I would love to say [the churches played] a great role, but I think a rather disappointing role. The Afrikaans churches played an active role in supporting and entrenching apartheid. Over the years and when I was young it was very blatant in the sense that the Dutch Reformed Church, which was the biggest Afrikaans church that my family belonged to, said that apartheid was the will of God; it is in the Bible. And it took them well into the late ‘80s and early ‘90s to really get rid of that. So that was a very, very negative one. The Catholic Church and Anglican and Methodist to different degrees did play some role, but not very active.

Individual church leaders started playing a role. In 1983 the UDF was formed, United Democratic Front, and one reason why that was so effective was that whenever they had a march or a protest or a rally, the front line were clergy, were religious people: Desmond Tutu, Allan Boesak, Maulana Farid Esack. So you had black and white, Christians and Jews and Muslim religious leaders in front. And that was an incredibly strong message.

[The United Democratic Front was a multiracial anti-apartheid coalition. Archbishop Desmond Tutu (1931 – ) was the first black Archbishop of Capetown in the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, serving from 1986 – 1996. He is a human rights advocate and was a leading anti-apartheid activist. Tutu won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1984. Allan Boesak (1945 – ) was a religious leader and anti-apartheid activist. Maulana Farid Esack (1959 – ) is a South African Muslim scholar, writer, and political activist known for his opposition to apartheid.]

And then that kind of thing the ANC [African National Congress] completely dropped when they came back. I mean, they just dumped that whole culture that the UDF had. But that’s what made the UDF so powerful. That’s what kept us stable, because there was Desmond Tutu. He was always there with Esack and Boesak and the rabbis. So that I think was a very important role.

[The African National Congress (ANC) is a political party that served as the most prominent resistance movement against South Africa’s apartheid system, at times resorting to violence through its military wing, Umkhonto we Sizwe. It was officially banned by the South African government from 1960 to 1990. As apartheid collapsed, the ANC’s leader, Nelson Mandela, was elected President of South Africa in 1994 and established a democratic government.]

The Anglican Church started playing a very strong role through their bishops; Desmond Tutu first, and then [Njongonkulu] Ndungane, and now [Thabo] Makgoba. And I find it interesting how those three men more than any other church the leaders of another church—played such a strong role.

[Njongonkulu Ndungane (1941 – ) was the Archbishop of Capetown for the Anglican Church of Southern Africa from 1995 – 2007. He was an anti-apartheid activist and former political prisoner. Thabo Makgoba (1960 – ) is the Archbishop of Cape Town for the Anglican Church of Southern Africa.]