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Interviews with Max du Preez

Interviewed November 26, 2024

I think sanctions were very important because it isolated the economy, more financial sanctions, because not selling arms to South Africa didn’t work because they had—it stimulated them to start their own arms industry. Not selling oil stimulated them to start oil from coal process. But financial sanctions, the decisions in ’88 and ’89 of great financial institutions to refuse to roll over the debt of the South African economy, those were absolutely devastating, absolutely devastating. So in broad terms, yes, I think hugely successful, and I think in hindsight people hated one man more because of that, more than anybody else, and that was Desmond Tutu, because he was a priest. He was inside the country. He wasn’t in the ANC [African National Congress].

He wasn’t in exile. And he became the internal strongest voice to say, “Yes, we want sanctions,” and he was listened to in the world because he was the pastor to the nation. He was not a radical. He was not ANC. He was not a communist. And I think he has a strong feeling of satisfaction that that was the right way and that he—him coming out in favor of sanctions swayed a whole lot of people. Because remember, Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan were dead-set against sanctions, and in the end this economy was bankrupt.

[Archbishop Desmond Tutu (1931 – ) was the first black Archbishop of Capetown in the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, serving from 1986 – 1996. He is a human rights advocate and was a leading anti-apartheid activist. Tutu won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1984. The African National Congress (ANC) is a political party that served as the most prominent resistance movement against South Africa’s apartheid system, at times resorting to violence through its military wing, Umkhonto we Sizwe. It was officially banned by the South African government from 1960 to 1990. As apartheid collapsed, the ANC’s leader, Nelson Mandela, was elected President of South Africa in 1994 and established a democratic government. Ronald Reagan (1911 – 2004) was the 40th President of the United States, serving from 1981 to 1989. Margaret Thatcher (1925 – 2013) served as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979-1990]