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Interviews with Max du Preez

Interviewed November 26, 2024

When I did—to jump ahead, when I did the television reporting of the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission in ’96 through ’98, I moved with the Truth Commission wherever they went. I attended most sessions. It struck me how many of the perpetrators of gross human rights violations—how many of the men who came to ask for amnesty for murder torture, kidnapping looked like me, were my age, some of them had my name, and most came from similar circumstances as me. That could’ve been me, which helped me an awful lot to understand them a bit better and to stop despising them.

But it also reminded me that, A, I had the blessing of being a journalist so I saw a different reality, B, but I think I made choices, because that I think is always important. You’re not just a victim of what happened to you. You come at crucial points in your life to decide—where you decide, “Am I going to go the way that would be materially beneficial, or do I go the way that my conscience—that I can live with my conscience?” Now, what I can tell you I didn’t choose the side that made me materially well-off, as my bank manager would attest.

[The South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission was set up by the Government of National Unity in 1995 to investigate violence and human rights abuses committed under apartheid by all segments of society.]

That was the pattern. I was so frustrated with what was going on back home that I knew I had to leave Afrikaans journalism. It was very hard, and I think people find this very difficult to understand. Why would I, being very critical of the apartheid system, being very critical of the true nature of Afrikaner nationalism and beginning to realize the real nature of the apartheid system—why would I go and work for an Afrikaans newspaper in the first place?

[Afrikaners are the descendants of Dutch settlers who came to Africa’s Cape of Good Hope in 1652. During the Anglo-Boer Wars that spanned the 19th and 20th centuries, the Afrikaners were overtaken by the British Empire and agreed to live under British rule.]

Well, I must tell you when I finished university there was no choice. To go and work for an English language publication because they were more critical of the apartheid government was absolutely unthinkable, absolutely unthinkable. I am an Afrikaner. Why would I go and work for the English? And people forget that that was the mentality in the last 30—what, 10, 15, 20, 30 years ago. I never even considered it.

So now I got to the point that I should consider it, that I had to consider it. I had to find another way of being a journalist but living with my conscience.

It was so hard for me to do it that I decided, well, maybe I should leave the country. So went to live in Northern Ireland where Bobby Sands was starving himself to death at that point, and I thought a nice war or conflict somewhere else would be good for me. Then I thought, “Well, maybe I should be a communist. Maybe that’s a good idea.”

[Robert Gerard “Bobby” Sands (1954 – 1981) was a member of the Irish Republican Army who died in prison while on a hunger strike.]

So I went to live in East Berlin in ’83, and fortunately the life in the Democratic Republic of Germany cured me of communism for the rest of my life. And then I came back and I started working for the Sunday Times and for Business Day, only to realize that it’s the same agenda. They’re just using more polite words.

The Financial Mail and Sunday Times at the time represented the interests of big business, corporate interests in South Africa, mostly white at that stage, mostly English-speaking, the Anglo-American [corporation]. The Financial Mail and Sunday Times were owned by Anglo-American at the time. And the new code that I also didn’t get—I somehow never understood these subtle things—was, “We write negatively about apartheid, we make nasty comments about the National Party apartheid politicians, but we don’t want to change the system because it’s good for business.” And I didn’t get that note. I didn’t understand that. I was trying to live my conscience through my journalism. And so, yes, slightly more free and respectable in my journalism, but the ceiling had just lifted a little bit. It was the same thing.

[Anglo American LLC, now headquartered in the United Kingdom, is a multinational corporation founded in South Africa. It expanded from diamond mining into numerous other lines of business. The National Party, founded in 1914, ruled South Africa from 1948 to 1994. Its following included mostly Dutch-descended Afrikaners and English-speaking whites. The National Party was long dedicated to policies of apartheid and white supremacy. By the early 1990s, the party had moved toward sharing power with South Africa’s black majority.]

So I ended up being very frustrated once again and clashed with my editors on the stuff that I was writing.