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Interviews with Max du Preez

Interviewed November 26, 2024

My name is Max du Preez.

I was born in a small, rural town in the Free State province of South Africa called Kroonstad in 1951. And Kroonstad—the Afrikaans society then was very conservative. I came from a very conservative, Christian, nationalist, Afrikaner nationalist family very strict upbringing, very conventional, lived in a world where we didn’t really know much about the world outside of us. Kroonstad was more or less my universe as a young child, and especially white Kroonstad and Afrikaans-speaking Kroonstad.

That was my immediate environment; the rest of the country you didn’t really take notice of. And black people you don’t take notice of; they just work in the kitchen and the garden and you see them sometimes on the streets. And you sometimes hear the adults talk about the threat that they pose to white survival and the civilization and stuff like that.

[Afrikaners are the descendants of Dutch settlers who came to Africa’s Cape of Good Hope in 1652. During the Anglo-Boer Wars that spanned the 19th and 20th centuries, the Afrikaners and South Africa were overtaken by the British Empire.]

So a very insulated existence andI left high school there and then went to Stellenbosch University—no, I first went to do a year of compulsory military training. Fortunately it was before there were any wars going on, so I didn’t have to fight in any wars. I just learned to march up and down and shoot a few guns, and I wasn’t very good at it.

And then I went to Stellenbosch University, which in those days—and that was in 1970—it was kind of glorified high school. It’s more of the same. There were no black students, very few English-speaking students, strong discipline, and I found it hugely disappointing. And that in itself was very spectacular for a 17-year old from the rural areas. So I suppose my university education did mean something to my development. But it was more or less the same.

The leader of the Afrikaner Broederbond, which is this secret, powerful, Afrikaner society which sort of ran society here for a while—the leader was also the head of the university, which gives you an idea of what went on at Afrikaans universities at the time. There was a bit of rebelliousness among students in the early ‘70s but nothing serious.

[The Afrikaner Broederbond, or Afrikaner Brotherhood in English, was a South African secret society composed of Afrikaans-speaking, Protestant, white men over the age of 25 that was established in 1918.]

I was, strangely enough, when I look back—the first thing that I noticed that I can remember back was that I was touched by the American students who were shot—I think it was at Kent State University. And we didn’t have television then; I must have read it somewhere. And I remember being outraged. I think it was possibly one of the first political emotions I ever had in my life, that fellow students could be shot for just expressing their views and for fighting for peace. And I mean, it later on didn’t pass me by, that the injustice to white American students was what stirred my political feelings and not the injustice of the apartheid system around me. But at the university I started broadening my horizons a little bit and started noticing where we live and what situation the country was in.

[On May 4, l970 members of the Ohio National Guard fired into a crowd of Kent State University demonstrators who were protesting the Vietnam War, killing four and wounding nine.]

I then started working for the Afrikaans newspaper in Cape Town called Die Burger, which was officially a mouthpiece of the National Party, which was the main party supporting apartheid, the ruling party. And it was very interesting to me because I—it was more intellectually stimulating. But I think I misunderstood the code of Afrikaans journalism at the time, because you were taught as a cub reporter that what you do is reflect the truth and the full truth to your readers, and you don’t pander to politicians or anybody else.

And I thought that was it. The code was of course that unless those politicians were the leaders of “Afrikanerdom” or the leaders of the National Party, then you do treat them differently.

[The National Party, founded in 1914, ruled South Africa from 1948 to 1994. Its following included mostly Dutch-descended Afrikaners and English-speaking whites. The National Party was long dedicated to policies of apartheid and white supremacy. By the early 1990s, the party had moved toward sharing power with South Africa’s black majority.]