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Interviews with Mahmoud Afifi

Interviewed November 26, 2024

The government didn’t deal with the [April 6th] movement peacefully, on the contrary, the regime was trying to resist it and was exploiting its authoritarian and repressive power against it and its members. [The April 6th Youth Movement is an Egyptian activist group that was founded in 2008 to support striking workers.]

Many members were arrested and tortured, in addition to fighting them at their work place and universities.

In most cases, this used to happen when the security forces tried to scatter the demonstrations. They used to arrest the members of the movement and other people in the demonstration as well. They used to take those they arrested in deportation cars and take them either to the police office or throw them in the desert.

I have been arrested four times from the demonstrations, they took us in the deportation car and drove for 5 or 6 hours till the demonstration ended. They took us to the desert, for example, Cairo-Ismailia Desert or Egypt Suez Desert and threw us there at night.

In the middle of the night, they used to throw each one of us individually far from the other, for example, they throw one and then another after five or ten kilometers, to make sure that we can’t gather again.

These practices used to happen a lot. They tried to scatter us so that we don’t gather and go back to the demonstration again.

It happened with me four times. Sometimes, they used to send us a formal call from the State Security so that we go and they do some investigations.

But we used to reject these calls, of course, because this was illegal. Thus, they tried to arrest us or kidnap us from our work place or universities. This happened with many members.

Also, when we go to collect signatures on the Statement of Change [A nationwide campaign launched by the National Association for Change to collect at least one million signatures for a seven-point program of reforms to ensure free and fair elections], they arrest us as well, this happened with many members. The police arrested and investigated them, but eventually, it ended peacefully because this was an illegal arrest. They were just trying to scare and intimidate us so that we don’t do this again.

But we didn’t feel any kind of fear or intimidation, we believed in our cause and believed in our mission.

We were ready to be arrested and tortured at any time, because we believed that this was the price to be paid for reaching our goal, the price for achieving what we believe in, for reaching this stage of overthrowing the corrupt regime and dictatorship that was controlling each and every part of the country. The regime acted as a focus of corruption in the country and encroached on each institution.

There was no freedom, democracy or social justice in Egypt.

In the [April 6th] movement, there was a Legal Committee, this committee consists of a group of lawyers, and I was one of them.

We used to look after any member who got arrested or put in prison. We used to go to the police office and defend him till they set him free or we checked the procedures concerning the process of arrest.

There was a committee following the legal committee called the Committee for Subsistence, this committee was concerned with getting funds to the arrested members. It provided them with food, drinks, clothing, cigarettes and everything they needed in prison. We also look for their families in case they are in need for money, sometimes the arrested member is the only breadwinner of his family, so the family needs money as long as he is in prison. We gathered money from all the members and from our resources, tracked those who were arrested, and helped them with anything possible.