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Interviews with Ji Seong-ho

Interviewed November 22, 2024

I had received a phone call from one of my friends that had defected to South Korea. This friend suggested to me that I leave North Korea as well. My friend also provided details on what South Korea was really like. I was shocked by two things.

First, I was shocked by the fact that unlike North Korea, one is not allowed to beat the disabled in South Korea, and that South Korea had good facilities that assisted the handicapped.

Second, I couldn’t believe that North Korean defectors could enter college and receive an education in South Korea.

Given my grievances towards the North Korean system and my belief that this was a good opportunity, I discussed the issue with my brother and he felt the same way, so we decided to leave the country.At that time, we couldn’t bring our father with us. You must understand that Kim Jong Il always deceived the North Korean people [and because of this brainwashing] they had a hard time trusting any information.

[Kim Jong Il (1941 – 2011) succeeded his father Kim Il Sung and led North Korea from 1994 until his death in 2011.]

I think my father’s position was that, “Unless I can see it for myself, I cannot leave the country based on another person’s words.” So it was decided that my brother and I would enter South Korea first and if we saw it was safe and a good place, then we would send word to our father. That is how we left the country, across the Tumen River. [The Tumen River forms part of the border between North Korea and China.]

The season when I defected was similar to now, in April, so it was a pleasant time during the year. We reached the Tumen River by evading soldiers. During the daytime, many soldiers guard the river area, so my brother and I hid in the mountains and decided we would cross the river at night.

Normally, the Tumen River is quite shallow in spring, which makes crossing easy. Unfortunately, there was a lot of snow and rain so the river was overflowing with water. We had to think about what to do.

At first I thought we could wait in the mountain area for a few days and wait for the water to recede, making it easier to cross.

My brother disagreed because we were already in danger of being discovered and we knew if they arrested us that we’d be dead. So we decided to cross the river right away and we actually had to swim across. Because there was so much water flowing I almost drowned to death but my brother came to my rescue. And that is how we entered into China.

A North Korean entering China is not safe. Usually, an official passport has been issued to you by North Korea which gives you passage to enter China for purchasing food or whatever. But I crossed the Chinese border illegally. If I were arrested then I would be sent back to North Korea. Once I was sent back, I would be punished under North Korean law, as many people probably know.

If North Korea discovers that a person has escaped to South Korea or if a person is exposed to a religion such as Christianity, then their punishment [should they be returned] would be a prison camp or public execution. I prayed desperately not to get arrested in China.