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Interviews with Han Nam-su

Interviewed November 21, 2024

I was born in Pyongyang, North Korea. My family included my parents and two other siblings, so I am the youngest of 3 children. My father was working for the military and I was actually attending a university when I escaped North Korea in 1998. I spent about six or seven years in China before entering South Korea in 2004.

I was attending what we called a political university so naturally my plans were to work for the party. [The Workers’ Party of Korea is the communist party that has run North Korea since the state was established in 1948.]

My father’s position wasn’t extremely prestigious, but it was prestigious enough. What this meant for me, was that I was part of a very good social class or songbun, which meant that I had a very bright future ahead of me.

In terms of the benefits that we enjoyed, we were provided housing and various supplies that ordinary North Koreans did not have access to. For example, during the holidays we would receive many gifts from Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il. We were still provided for during non-holiday seasons.

[Songbun is a system used by the North Korean regime to classify citizens’ attitudes toward the regime as core, wavering, or hostile. An individual’s songbun status is influenced by his family’s status and helps determine career prospects, housing and even access to food. Kim Il Sung (1912 – 1994) was the founder and leader of the North Korean state from 1948 until his death in 1994. Kim Jong Il (1941 – 2011) succeeded his father and led North Korea from 1994 until his death in 2011.]

Because I was educated and brainwashed on these topics [North Korean state propaganda] ever since I was little, everything came very naturally to me. I can’t say that I accepted it because I had a belief in it. We were intensely indoctrinated in [State] ideologies. These thoughts were deeply rooted in my head, so I accepted it as my destiny. I didn’t see it any other way.

North Korea is a place where universal human rights are not respected. North Korea is also a place where many people dwell; each with their own dreams, hopes for happiness and hopes for the future. But the unfortunate fact is that all of these dreams and hopes are taken away and unable to be achieved due to the dictatorship.