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Interviews with Czeslaw Bielecki

Interviewed November 26, 2024

CDN – that’s an acronym for ‘To Be Continued.’ And we took as the logo of CDN a Polish flag, the national flag, from the walls, because people were writing CDN – it will be continued, to be continued, as graffiti; the fight has to be continued. But we – our logo – because there were some other organizations called CDN, which was very good for us because of the political police research that they mixed, they didn’t know who is who in the underground to the end. But our logo was very characteristic, because it was made with fonts discovered by [Jerzy] Janiszewski [a Polish artist best known for designing Solidarity’s logo] in the Solidarność logo [Solidarity – the most prominent Polish opposition movement under communism].

We were using three letters from this logo, with N, so independence, niepodległość [Polish translation of independence]. Our logo was just an abbreviation of this classical logo-type by Janiszewski. Our program was very short, two words slogan: Sovietology applied, sovietologie appliqué [French translation of ‘sovietology applied’], sovietologia stosovana [Polish translation of ‘sovietology applied’]. It was our political program.

So sometimes we were publishing prose or poetry, for instance, by a famous poet, [Stanislaw] Barańczak, who was a professor at Harvard, sometimes some letters from jail by [Adam] Michnik [a prominent anti-communist activist and Solidarity leader]. But generally, we wanted to prepare the general public for the future. So actually, when I wrote my first essay, Freedom in the Camp, I was convinced that this break between fear and terror was not final in ’79, when I was writing my essay. But we were close too, because we had in this time our own free distribution network which could communicate [our concept of] future civil society.

That was a general code of the text. And my position in the underground was in between. But I was this manager of a big firm, because our firm had 150 people, permanent staff, had divisions. We had as well an insurance company between different publishing houses. So we were using regularly secondhand cars not to lose too much. They were always registered for an innocent person not involved in the underground. This person knew only one, the owner of the car, that when police will come to them, they will say, “I don’t know, the car was stolen, I don’t know.” And when really the car was kept by the police, our insurance company, in which we were paying each month a certain amount of money, was giving us money to buy back another secondhand car to have regular production going ahead. So we met in this time the question of cash flow, not only the question of how to make conspiracy efficient, but how to maintain cash flow, how to protect copyrights, how to connect with the West, how to connect with the authors.

That’s why this patriotic business, the history of CDN Publishing house which appeared last year, was a kind of study how, without freedom, without independence, civil society well organized can promote future freedom and future organization as well of society, as economy, as free political life. We were financing as well two reviews which were our conspiracy within a conspiracy. We were publishing – Godnosc – Dignity – for police and we were publishing a review for the army – for armed forces, Reduta – Redoubt. And that’s how we were pursued so systematically by the regime’s counterintelligence. We were one of the biggest producers of Solidarity Weekly Mazowsze in this region. We were printing between 10 [10,000] to 13 [13,000], I guess, thousand copies of the weekly.

To let you envision what it represents, that’s the full capacity of a big automobile, of a big car, the full capacity, very heavy. So to distribute it – we were distributing in gross only. Our smallest unit of distribution was for 500 copies because we couldn’t go down because down on this popular level police could observe and go – come from the bottom to the top.