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Interviews with Chen Guangcheng

Interviewed November 5, 2024

My name is Chen Guangcheng, I am from Shandong [a coastal province in eastern] China. I am an ordinary citizen and also a human rights activist in China. I am very happy to be here today. This is related to the general environment of rights being abused in China.

I like the law because my own individual citizen’s rights, and my fellow people’s citizens’ rights are being persecuted at this moment. There are no other avenues to resolve this problem and I thought of using the Rule of Law to try and solve this problem. There are many examples of my rights being persecuted in China. For example, in 1991 China announced the Protection of Disabled Person’s Law, this law has clearly outlined that if you are a rural citizen and disabled, you don’t have to pay the same taxes as other ordinary citizens.

But in reality even as this law was in existence, until it was abolished years later, it was never executed in society. In other words, although the law is written one way, the local government is still taxing us illegally. Also, they require us to do “volunteer labor work” and to ask us to pay fees that the law said we don’t have to pay.

This has caused families to look-down upon the disabled among them. This event caused us to spend a long time appealing this process from the local government to the Central government. But the end result was that the government can take, at will, up to 60 percent of people’s land to sell it for their own benefit, and take the land to give them to others, and the result is trampling on the rights of farmer’s ownership of the land. The farmer’s chance to produce has been stolen by the government for its own monetary benefit.

I believe China has laws but there is no rule of law. The basic concept of rule of law has some differences in China. In China, it is taught by educators that the law is a tool for rulers to rule, however, I think it is not the case in reality.

I think the rule of law has a common standard and that is the law is a tool that should be obeyed by all. But in China it is a tool that is used by a small group of people to rule over the greater majority of people in China. In reality the people of China have been searching for rule of law for thousands of years already.

In the earliest days, ancient China had a saying: “If a prince breaks the law he should be tried as an ordinary person.” We can interpret this as the ancient Chinese’s basic understanding of the rule of law, but unfortunately this did not result in a reasonable reflection of a righteous societal order to ensure and enforce the execution of the laws.

So that even now the nation of China is under a system of tyranny and there is no true rule of law and this is a big regret. I would say even commercially there is still no formation of rule of law. Because in reality even in the area of commerce, there is still an “invisible hand” [referring to the government] behind it to control it.