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Interviews with Bronislaw Wildstein

Interviewed November 26, 2024

And at the same time, I received a passport [in 1980]. I had never ever held a passport, I had never traveled to the West, and now all of a sudden the authorities had given me a passport. In the meanwhile, the authorities granted it of their own accord. I mean, I had applied much earlier and was refused, but here all of a sudden after 1980, I get this passport.

And the fact that I received a passport I think was contrary to any legal standards of the time, of communist Poland, because at the time I had a pending criminal case with them. I had been released from prison but in formal terms I was still a defendant and I should have been sitting waiting for my trial in prison.

Up until then I ought not have been granted any possibility to leave the country.

At any rate, things really accelerated owing to an accident. What happened was an accidental scuffle with the police.

So I used this passport, to go to Austria, because it was possible to travel to Austria without a visa. I began traveling throughout the West, trying to obtain certain things for Solidarity [a labor union formed by Gdansk ship builders that transformed into a nationwide resistance movement], but at the same time, working there and trying to support myself, doing undocumented work.

This was a fascinating adventure for me, because it was the first time I traveled to the West. And at the same time my friends were taking care of my case resulting from the scuffle with the police – after all, it was the police who had provoked this scuffle. Ultimately, it was possible to resolve it. And I was getting ready to travel again, but at the same time the world over there was kind of holding onto me; this was a fascinating world of Western Europe which held me in thrall, and then on the other hand I was actually doing something useful as well, I was establishing contacts, I had people in Poland asking me to find out about this or get that in the West. So paradoxically, I made my decision, and I actually started returning home by hitchhiking in the month of December.

This was really my only way of traveling in Europe, seeing as I had no money. And so the news about martial law was what held me back in Holland [The Netherlands]. I came to Germany because I had a German visa. And there I began to be active in Polish issues, activities; I was invited to the universities where discussions were being held about what was happening in Poland, mainly at universities – but not exclusively at universities. But at the same time I began to make contact with friends who were living in the West.

And with one of my friends from KOR [The Workers’ Defense Committee, an anticommunist underground civil society organization in the 1970s, formed to provide assistance to laborers and others persecuted by the government. Many of Solidarity’s leaders were also active in KOR.], Miroslaw Chojecki, we thought that it would be a worthwhile idea to start a periodical which could be a focal point for the post-Solidarity immigration. So in the spring, early spring, I came to Paris, actually it was in the winter, I came in February to Paris, and in April was when we started putting out the periodical – this was a monthly named Contact [a Solidarity weekly publication that commented on the political situation in Poland].

But it is difficult to imagine how great the impact of Radio Free Europe was on the Polish people. Everybody listened to Radio Free Europe, it was jammed, yet everyone was sitting with their ears pointed to the radios. Even those who said that, well, you know, this is also propaganda but coming from the West, they also listen to it. We have to realize that of course the movement that we were creating, the opposition at the end of the 1970s, had its own publications, some books, but the scale distribution was after all, quite limited. On the other hand Radio Free Europe was accessible to pretty much everyone – and everyone could in one way or another hear this or that from it. For myself, I simply cannot imagine what the situation would look like without Radio Free Europe – and I am sure would be very different.