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Interviews with Berta Soler

Interviewed December 27, 2024

The Catholic Church’s hierarchy, Cardinal Jaime Ortega, is very compromised by the Cuban government. In Cuba, before ’98, you had to baptize a child in secret. In fact, there are records of those who were baptized four or five times because multiple people baptized the baby not knowing it had already been done. When

[Pope] John Paul II arrived in Cuba in ’98, things became a bit more open and more people began to go to church. Cubans are very Catholic, but the Cuban government took that from them.

[Jaime Lucas Ortega y Alamino (1936 – ) is the Archbishop of Havana and a Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. Pope John Paul II (1920 – 2005), born Karol Wojtyla, led the Roman Catholic Church from 1978 until his death.]

Currently, the Cuban government says there is an opening, somewhat bigger than the Catholic Church. It is a trick, because in March 2012 when [Pope] Benedict XVI arrived in Cuba, the government took hundreds of human rights activists to prison, only to impede their participation in the two Masses that the Holy Father gave in Santiago and in Havana.

[Pope Benedict XVI (1927 – ), born Joseph Ratzinger, led the Roman Catholic Church from 2005 until his resignation in 2013.]

Currently, we have much support from some parish priests of the churches we attend, but the support we had in 2010 from Cardinal Jaime Ortega has ended. We feel he is biased. The Catholic Church should not be biased. It should be open to protect its flock, the long-suffering and marginalized. We are a part of the flock. We are marginalized and long-suffering.

I believe that if the Catholic Church is going to speak it must first do so regarding the social problems. It must go to the persons who are suffering. I am speaking of the general hierarchy, of Jaime Ortega. I can give an example: before the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI to Cuba in March [2012], when a group of human rights activists entered the Caridad del Cobre Church. Yes, I say that the church is not for politics but I respect these activists.

Cardinal Jaime Ortega ordered that they be evicted. Christ could not do that nor would He ever do that, nor would He choose. The first thing Cardinal Jaime Ortega should have done was to go to where those activists were, to pray with them and to convince them to leave.

The government does not respect the Cuban Catholic Church at all, while the Cuban government demands that they respect its public areas. Neither the Catholic Church nor anyone will hold an activity near government areas. Nevertheless, the Cuban government lashes out against the Ladies in White, in every province, inside and near the churches, without respecting the [places of] the Catholic Church.

This is very important if I had the opportunity to meet with Pope Francis, I would like to explain to him about this situation that’s happening in Cuba. The Cuban government does not respect the Catholic Church. [Pope Francis (1936 -), born Jorge Bergoglio, assumed the papacy of the Roman Catholic Church in 2013.]