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Interviews with Andrzej Gwiazda and Joanna Duda-Gwiazda

Interviewed November 26, 2024

JOANNA DUDA-GWIAZDA: Let us first state that martial law [declared by Poland’s Communist government from 1981-1983] was living proof that the authorities were unable to subjugate Solidarity [a labor union formed by Gdansk ship builders that transformed into a nationwide resistance movement], they were unable to destroy its internal democracy, unable to deal with the independence of the union, and so they were left with naked force.

ANDRZEJ GWIAZDA: On December 12 [1981], there was a session of the National Committee, which was the supreme authority of the union, and after the end of the [National] Committee session, it actually ended in the time of martial law because they finished after midnight and that was when martial law came into force. And all – well, almost all the members of the Committee, the National Committee, were arrested.

JOANNA DUDA-GWIAZDA: Andrzej [Gwiazda] came back home, and I came back from some union meeting, during the night they broke down our door and we were driven to an internment camp in Szczebielinek. Thereafter, Andrzej was shipped to Białołęka – which was a prison in Warsaw – so we were technically interned, but when the interment was up, Andrzej was simply arrested and jailed – this is a very strange legal format [which was used], and charged with an “attempt to overthrow established authority by force.” Initially, this was subject to the death penalty. Happily, later on this charge was reduced to “preparation for overthrow of established authority”. For myself, I was released from the internment camp after seven months, at the time when interned women became subject to amnesty. I went back to work, and went back to doing what I had been doing before. So Andrzej was behind bars for a total of three years.

When he was released on July 22, 1984, he immediately set out traveling around the country, and trying to do what he had been doing before. Well, he was arrested on December 16, 1984 and was in jail until May 16, 1985. But we kept our good health, we kept our strength, kept our optimistic outlook, which unfortunately you could not say about some of our colleagues who already decided that [since] Solidarity had lost the war, you should accommodate any compromise at all.