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Interviews with Abdel Basset Ben Hassen

Interviewed November 26, 2024

The kind of oppression from the authoritarian regimes in the Arab countries are so many. And it was, for example, kind of– I can give some examples. Pressure on militants by intimidating them, by trying to isolate them from their societies, putting pressure on them to abandon the work on human rights. Also trying to limit our right to move within the countries and between the Arab countries. Sometimes it was very difficult to get visas, for example, to organize things in some Arab countries. All the surveillance by the security systems of our activities.

Intimidating the people to join the human rights movement. Sometimes they try to develop the idea and to make people feel that working for human rights is a kind of crime, it´s a kind of crime. And people were really afraid to work for human rights organization or to work for political issues. Another kind of pressure– putting pressure on for example, on our partners. Trying to isolate our organizations. Sometimes it was very difficult, for example, to organize things with the universities, with research centers. Another– also isolating us by, for example by not allowing us to use the media.

At certain times there was a kind of a black list of people, I think for four years or five years, not allowed, for example, to use the media and to be on the TV, for example, the national TV. Or for example, censorship. And sometimes it was about violence, it was about violence. That they used violence against human rights activists. When my father died, I remember my father died in 2005. And in the cemetery, the police, the political police, security police was at the cemetery. And they are surrounding the cemetery. And some people were not allowed to come to my family house.

It was a kind of in a village, it was a kind of village surrounded by police. And it was, for them, it was a kind of security. Many, many kinds of obstacles, of limitations to our work. And this gave us also the opportunity to be creative, because I think that one of the main– I think results of oppression is to make people creative. To make people try to explore all the ways to resist. And we did many I think we developed many tactics and we trained people on how, for example, how to use, for example parallel methods to communicate, for example.

I remember and when they decided to close all the Tunisian League for Human Rights offices, and I was secretary general of one of the offices of the Tunisian League for Human Rights, on a voluntary basis, of course. And the idea was to use email to train all the directors responsible for these offices to train them on how to use email to network and to communicate between themselves. And this was really very, very useful at the time. I remember it was in 1999 or something like that. At that time, using email was not something familiar for people. And this was a kind of resistance. And we succeeded to create a kind of communication– parallel communication to overcome this problem.

I remember, for example working on training people on how to monitor and to document human rights violations in a very hostile environment. How to use parallel networks. How to take information from people without putting them in a dangerous situation.